Griffin Warenne

  Noted events in his life were:

• Family Background. ¹⁴⁹¹
Griffin Warren married Isabella, sister of Robert de Pulford, by whom he had John de Warren, who married Audela, daughter and heiress of Griffin de Albo Monasterio (or Blanchminster). This John was Lord of Ichtefeld, in right of his wife, and not by inheritance. Griffin's son, John had a son Griffin de Warren, who married Winifred, daughter and one of the heirs of William Broxton of Cheshire, Esq. By her he had John who married Helen, daughter of John Choleston, by whom Griffin, who married Maud daughter of Lord Strange of Blackmere; by her he had Griffin, who married Margaret daughter of Sir Peter Corbet, Knight; by her he had John, who married Emma, daughter of Sir John Cheney of Wollaston, Knight, and Griffin, who married Isabel, daughter of Aucher de Armincham. John had by his Wife Emma - Griffin, Lord of Ichtefeld; a daughter married to John Dodd of Knoles; and another daughter, Margaret, who married William, second son of Ralph Mainwaring of Peover.

~ History of the Warren Family, pp. 29-30

• From Gen-Medieval Archives: Warren of Ightfield ¹⁹³
From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <taf2@po.cwru.edu>
Subject: Re: Warren of Ightfield
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 10:38:00 -0400

Reedpcgen wrote:

> I haven't checked the following against original sources, so I'm not sure if anything in print is accurate. But here is the descent as it is usually given:
>
> 1. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey, son of Hameline "Plantagenet."
>
> 2. Griffin de Warren, illegitimate son, dead 1286, m. Isabel de Pulford, sister of Robert, rector of Coddington, Cheshire, widow 1286 and 1298.

Todd A. Farmerie wrote:
Eyton discusses the origin of this family. He concludes that Griffin de Warren, husband of Isabel de Pulford, was son of William de Warenne als. de Albo Monasterio als. de Whitchurch, d.c.1240. That William was son of a Ranulf de Warenne, who Eyton concluded was brother of William de Warenne and Reginald de Warenne of Wormsgay. (Early Yorkshire Charters argues that this last affiliation is not correct, that there was an earlier Ranulf at Whitchurch, and that this earlier Ranulf dates back to Domesday. He cannot be accurately placed among the family, but based on use of the names Ranulf and William was likely related to the senior line.) This Griffin is said by Eyton to have fl. 1240, 1263, 1272.

> 3. John de Warren, lord of Ightfield jure ux (through marriage), liv. 1289, m. Audelin, daughter and heir of Griffin de Albo Monasterio/Whitchurch [these earliest two generations seem kind of suspicious].

In light of the above, your concern seems warrented - Griffin de Warren was Griffin de Whitchurch. Eyton gives dates of 1284/5 and 1310 for John..

> 4. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, m. Wynifred, d. & coh. of William Broxlon of Chester.
>
> 5. John de Warren of Ightfield, liv. 1314, 1335, m. Ellen, d. of John Chorleton.
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> 6. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, d. 1356, m. Maud/Matilda, d. of Fulke, Lord Strange of Blackmere, afterwards married Sir Piers (or Peter) de Cornwall, lord of Kinlet, Shropshire.

Here is where things get a bit confusing. Eyton next mentions a Griffin in 1356, and I have a note (of unknown source) which says that in 1356 Griffin entails land to his grandson Griffin, son of his son John. Eyton also says that Griffin's wife was named Elizabeth, but it is unclear from my notes if this refers to the grandfather or the grandson.

[Kay Allen AG <allenk@pacbell.net> replied: That is Eyton's Antiquities of Shropshire, vol X: 210 which gives the entail. Elizabeth is the wife of Griffin Jr.]

Next I have a Plea Roll pedigree dating to 9/10 Richard II (ca.1386/7) which reports the following pedigree:

Griffin=Isabel de Pulford temp. Edward II
John
Griffin
John
Griffin - the plaintiff 9/10 Richard II

Now if this hasn't dropped two generations, then the Visitation pedigree has added two, because the Griffin d. 1356 would have to be the middle one (if this death date is accurate).

> 7. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, m. Margaret Corbet, daughter of Sir Piers de Corbet.
>
> 8. John Warren of Ightfield, d. ca. 1413, m. Matilda/ Margaret/ Emma, daughter of Sir John Cheney of Willaston.

The ipm of John, heir of Griffin de Warren reports his death 4 Feb. 1412/3, leaving son and heir Griffin aged 13. Griffin's ipm reports his death 5 Oct. 1415, heir sister Margaret aged 13. A couple of years later, her proof of age gave her bapt. 11 Jun. 1401.

> 9. Margaret Warren, sister and coheir, m. William Mainwaring, d. 1498/9, had Ightfield, Shropshire, and Stratton, in Tilston, Cheshire, with lands in Broxton.
>
> But I don't have Morris's notes to the pedigree so I don't know what further evidence he uses to estrablish the line.

[Kay Allen AG <allenk@pacbell.net.> replied: All of these wives appear to derive from the Shropshire Visitation, which is untrustworthy.]

Griffin married Margaret Corbet, daughter of Sir Peter Corbet Knight and Unknown.¹⁴⁹¹ (Margaret Corbet was born in Siston, Keynasham, Gloucestershire, England.)