Helias de Say Baron of Clun

 

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Helias de Say Baron of Clun

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• Background Information: 1220
At the survey (Domesday) we see that King William was lord of this manor, but soon after Alan, son of Flaald, obtained it by the gift of William the Conqueror, also the castle of Oswaldstrey in Shropshire, with the territory adjoining, which belonged to Meredith ap Blethyn, a Welshman or Briton, and marrying the daughter and heir of Warine, sheriff of that county, had, in her right, the barony of the said Warine.

Alan and his father attended the Conqueror into England.

This Alan gave to the monks of Castleacre lands, and the orchard, (frutestam) which they enclosed at Kempston, and 20 acres at Sporle in Norfolk, which Turchillus Rufus held, and 3s. rent out of his mill at Newton.

Simon de Norfolk confirmed this gift of Alan, son of Flaald, and Avelina his mother, which Wymark held, and all the rest of his ancestors, of which they were seized the day that Alan purchased the honour of Mileham, also the mill at Newton, out of which the monks received 10s.

William Filz-Alan was his son and heir, and married Isabel, daughter and heir of Helias de Say, niece to Robert Earl of Gloucester, lady of Clun in Shropshire, in whose right he became Baron of Clun, by whom he had William his son and successour, who, in the 12th of Henry II. certified his Knights fees to be in number 35 and an half, 19 de veteri feoffamento, and 16 and an half de novo, and died about the 19th of that King, leaving William Fitz-Alan his son and heir, who died about the 16th of King

An Essay Towards A Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Volume
10, Launditch Hundred: Mileham, Pages 15-25

• Background Information: 141
Clun and Oswestry - The Lordship of Clun in Shropshire, at the time of King Stephen of England, belonged to Ingram (Helias) de Say, whose daughter Isabel, brought it to her husband, William Fitz Alan, feudal Lord of Oswaldestre (Oswetry) who died about 1210. William Fitz Alan was their son and heir who was succeeded by his younger brother and heir, John Fitz Alan who married Isabel, sister (and whose issue became coheirs) of Hugh d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel. This John Fitz Allen died in 1240 and was succeeded by his son and heir, also named John, to whom the Castle and Honor of Arundel was awarded 26 Nov 1243, at which time he became the Earl of Arundel.

Cokayne's Complete Peerage, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 335


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