Robert Marmion

  Noted events in his life were:

• Background Information. ¹⁴¹
Robert Marmion, son and heir by 1st wife. After his father's death the custody of the castle of Tamworth was temporarily given to Robert's younger brother of the half-blood-namely, Robert son of Robert (died circa 1217) and Philippe. In 1220, however, the lands which had belonged to his father were restored to Robert the elder, who committed them to the custody of the Bishop of Winchester. His interests appear to have lain principally in Normandy, and he was a benefactor of the abbey of Fontenay. In 1233 he made a further grant of all his English lands, with the custody and marriage of his son and heir Philip, for a term of seven years to the Bishop, this grant being inspected and confirmed by the King 27 July 1233.

• Background Information: From GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives.¹⁹³
From: "Alan B. Wilson" <abwilson@UCLINK2.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject: MARMIONS in the ancestry of Thomas Bradbury
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 21:26:08

The main line of the Marmion family, who held Scrivelsby in Lincolnshire and Tamworth on the border of Warwickshire and Staffordshire, has been more difficult to sort out. This is primarily because there were four consecutive holders of the barony named "Robert" (as shown by Round, "Feudal England," pp. 156-157). This has made it difficult to firmly associate documents naming "Robert Marmion" with a particular generation. (Indeed, at least one of these Roberts named two of his sons Robert.)

Also some authors have ignored and others have diverged on the placement of a daughter of Gervase, Count of Rethel, who was married to one of the Robert Marmions. Below is what I now have for the main Marmion line, with some attention paid to the reasons for the identification of the daughter of Gervase of Rethel (which comes from Moriarty). The rest of the line is consistent with an early work by C. F. Palmer, The History of the Town and Castle of Tamworth.

MARMIONS OF SCRIVELSBY AND TAMWORTH:

1. Roger Marmion, alive during Lindsey Survey , 1115-1118, d. say 1130.

2. Robert I Marmion, b. circa 1109, slain 1143/1144, m. circa 1130/1133 Milicent, dau. of Gervase, Count of Rethel & Elizabeth de Namur.

3. Robert II Marmion, b. before 1133, d. circa 1181, m. Maud de Beauchamp, dau. of William de Beauchamp and Maud de Braose. About 1170/1175 Robert grants the church of Checkenden to the Priory of Coventry [Boarstall Cartulary No. 1]. This Robert, son of Milicent and Robert, about 1175 to 1180 also grants a third of Checkenden to a William Marmion, and confirms to this William the gift of another third of Checkenden which he had earlier granted to William's brother, Geoffrey (Boarstall Cartularies 20 through 23).

4. Robert III Marmion, b. circa 1155/1156, d. 1218, m. firstly unknown, (mother of Robert IV, below), m. secondly Philippa. This Robert became presiding Justiciary of the barons-errant. He was Sheriff for Worcestershire in 1185, 1187 and 1190. Near the end of his life, circa 1210-1218, with his wife, Philippa, he gives land in Stoke and Checkenden to the monastery of Barbery (Boarstall Cartulary No. 25.).

5. Robert IV Marmion, d. circa 1241/1243, m. Juliane, dau. of Philip de Vassy.

6. Philip Marmion, d.s.p.m. circa 1291/1292, m. firstly Joan, dau. of Hugh de Killpeck, m. secondly Mary.

• Background Information. ¹²⁵²
Robert de Marmyon made his peace with Henry III.; and, in 1220, he received the Castle of Tamworth, with the rest of his father's lands; as appears by the king's signification of his pleasure to all who held lands of it, by military service or otherwise, and to the sheriff of Warwickshire. Robert the younger, therefore, surrendered the possessions. His posterity long flourished in the county of Lincoln.

It is very probable that, after the expiration of several years, Robert de Marmyon returned into Normandy. For, in 1233, he assigned all his estates in England, for the space of seven years, to the care of Peter de Rupibus, bishop of Winchester; with the guardianship of Philip his son and heir, whose disposition in marriage this prelate was to effect as he should think proper, without disparagement. The bishop, afterwards, with the consent of Robert and Philip, made an assignment of the wardship to William de Cantilupe, a great man of that time. Of Robert the elder, we find nothing more recorded, except that he died in 1241.

Philip de Marmyon succeeded to all his father's estates. In 1243, he married Joan, one of the daughters and coheiresses of Hugh de Killpeck, of Killpeck-castle, in Herefordshire; whose guardianship and disposal in marriage had been committed to William de Cantilupe. For her lands, Philip paid relief in the following year, and, doing homage to the king, had livery of them.

~The History of the Town and Castle of Tamworth, pp. 340-341

Robert married Juliane de Vassy, daughter of Philip de Vassy and Unknown.¹⁴¹